『短篇故事・2ch』向女友求婚后,才发现她根本不是我一直在交往的女孩?(上)
引用元: http://vgperson.tumblr.com/post/23327484582/i-proposed-to-my-girlfriend-but-shed-been
>>1
I want someone to hear this.
I seriously feel like I’m going nuts here.
想找你们诉下苦。
我简直要崩溃了。
>>1
I recently proposed to my girlfriend.
We’d dated for about five years, starting in college.
I got the okay from her, and we were on the way to a happy marriage.
最近,我向女友求了婚。
大学里邂逅以来,我们已经交往了五年。
她应许了。照理来说,接下来就该准备婚礼了。
But, since I couldn’t yet get the money and we were unsure when to have the wedding, we decided to just register our marriage first.
不过,我们仍在筹备结婚所需的资金。所以决定先去办理手续。
So I got the marriage forms, filled out the necessary bits, and sent them to her.
But in the blank for her name, she wrote a name which I had never seen before.
我领取了登记表,填上了我的部分,把表交给了她。
拿回表时,在理应写上她名字的那栏里,却赫然填着我从没见过的字眼。
向女友求婚后,才发现她根本不是我一直在交往的女孩?(上)
I Proposed To My Girlfriend, But She’d Been Replaced
BGM:
“巴士摇晃著向远方奔赴”
“载著远走的希望或是孤独”
“你就突然的连接我心跳的频谱”
“像蝴蝶风暴般就卷入”
星尘 -《蝴蝶旅客》 by 小野道 赭莓奶 et al.
>>1
It wasn’t that I had been dating her all this time without knowing her real name.
I typically referred to her by a nickname, sure.
But we had been in the same class in college, and we had laughed seeing our names together on the roster.
虽然我们间有更亲昵的称呼,
但交往了这么久,我不可能不知道她的真名。
我还记得大学课堂上,看见彼此的名字被划归到同一组时的欢呼雀跃。
>>1
I honestly didn’t know what to think.
But those were the facts.
我的大脑一片混乱。
可是事实就是如此。
I recognized my girlfriend’s name as being “Hanako Satoh.”
But she wrote something completely different; we’ll say “Elizabeth Ijuin.”
It seemed like a rather obnoxious name, really.
我记得女友的名字是“花子”。
但写在表上的却完全不同,是个让人不怎么舒服的名字–“伊丽莎白”。
Of course, I asked her about it.
当然,我向她提出了疑问:
“Huh? What’s that name?”
“What? My name?”
“Isn’t your name Hanako Satoh?”
“What’re you saying?”
That’s the exchange we had.
「呃?那是什么名字?」
「什么?我的名字吗?」
「你不是叫花子吗?」
「你在说些什么啊?」
#2ch
Do you have her as Hanako Satoh in your phonebook?
手机通讯录里,她的名字是花子吗?
^ She’s on my phone under her nickname.
不,通讯录里用的是昵称。
Feeling I must have been making a ridiculous mistake this whole time, I backed off for the moment.
I came to doubt my own mind somewhat.
猛然意识到,我可能一直犯着荒唐至极的错误,心跳停了一拍。
记忆变得模棱两可,或真或假难以分辨。
Deciding to take a look back at my memories, I found some old photographs.
They were pictures of me and my girlfriend together.
But the girl in the photos was not the girl I had been talking to.
为了回忆往事,我翻出了大学时的旧相片。
那是我和女友一起欢笑的定格。
只是,照片里的女孩并不是现在日夜相伴的那个人。
>>1
However, it was the girl in the photos who I couldn’t recall.
In my memory, I had been dating the girl calling herself “Elizabeth Ijuin” for five years.
更奇怪的是,我对照片里的女孩竟毫无印象。
记忆里,和我交往了五年的是自称为伊丽莎白的那个女孩才对。
Hanako Satoh had vanished into thin air.
I felt like I was going to throw up.
关于花子的一切突然踪迹全无。
有什么东西开始在胃里翻江倒海。
#2ch
You still want to get married?
^^^ Oh god. Would that be wise?
那你还想结婚吗?
天哪,差点忘了…现在结婚还明智吗?
#2ch
Maybe show the pictures to Elizabeth?
给伊丽莎白看看照片?
#2ch
She just took off her makeup, I bet.
^^ That doesn’t explain her name changing!
她只是卸了妆而已吧。
那名字的事要怎么解释呢?
#2ch
Did you have an accident or something?
Sounds like memory loss, or dissociation…
^ No, I’ve never hit my head or anything.
Had my foot broken by a bike, sure.
你遭遇过事故吗?
听上去像是失忆或人格障碍之类的…
没有,我的大脑没受过伤。
不过,脚倒是被自行车轧过。
#2ch
Does the nickname stem from “Elizabeth” or “Hanako”?
^^^ She had a stage name of sorts for a rakugo club.
I called her a variation on that.
“花子” 会不会是由“伊丽莎白”演变来的昵称?
她的昵称取自于戏剧社时候的艺名。
原文的rakugo指落语,这里方便理解译作戏剧社。全文其他地方亦有此现象。
#2ch
Maybe she just wrote some other name she has?
^^ I don’t think she’d write a nickname on a marriage form…
也许她写下的是自己的其他称呼?
她不是那种在结婚表格上填昵称的人…
#2ch
Think about it, it’d be really obvious if her face changed.
I can’t say anything but that there’s something wrong with you.
Tell a friend about the situation.
^ I suppose… I’ll try getting in touch with a friend from college.
人的脸是不会变的。
很明显,是你的问题。找个朋友商量一下吧。
有道理…我和大学同窗联系下。
#2ch
How long ago were these photos from?
It’d help to figure out when the switch occurred…
The photos were taken during our third year of college, so four years ago.
Oh, but I knew there was a girl named Hanako Satoh since my first year.
照片是什么时候的?
这是你的女友被替换掉的时间的线索。
那时我们大学三年级,所以是四年前。
不过,我一年级就认识那个叫花子的女孩了。
#2ch
Have you always stayed close?
Never gone long-distance at any point?
No occasions that I think are worth mentioning…
The longest we’ve gone without seeing each other at all is about two weeks.
That was for a family trip.
你们有异地过吗?还是一直在一起?
我们基本都待在一起。不过这有什么联系吗?
最长的分别时间是全家旅游的那次,大概两个星期吧。
#2ch
In Korea, they use aliases on marriage forms, trials, all kinds of official stuff.
Because they really do have two names.
^^^ Seriously? I mean… Well, I guess I’ve never asked if she’s Korean…
I guess I could check…
在韩国,人们也会在结婚登记、比赛啦这种正式场合使用别名。
他们确实有两个名字。
是真的吗?没问过她有没有韩国血统…
我应该确认的…
#2ch
Tell us everything since the time you met.
^^ Nothing really special’s happened since we met…
She did rakugo in a club and I came to listen, and I thought it was neat.
Since we were in the same class, we became friends and started dating.
说说你们相遇以来的故事吧。
都是很普通的情节…
有一次恰好遇上她们戏剧社的演出,有声有色的表演给我留下了很深的印象。
加之我们又在同一个班级,很快成为了朋友,然后就开始约会了。
#2ch
Which girl is in the most recent photo you have?
Hanako, or Elizabeth?
>>1
^ The only other recent photos I have are phone photos.
I upgraded my phone about a year ago, and all the pictures on it are of Elizabeth.
近期的照片里,和你相拥的是哪个女孩?花子还是伊丽莎白?
呃…现在用的手机是一年前换的,里面的照片都是和伊丽莎白一起的。
#2ch
But her name and face are different? You can’t explain that…
>>1
Indeed… I can’t.
不可能她的名字和模样都改变了吧…这是怎么回事啊?
是啊…我也不知道。
I’m going nuts here…
Gonna go for a smoke.
不行了……
去外面抽根烟冷静下。
#2ch
I’m getting confused…
Is it that you were dating Hanako Satoh, but she was replaced by Elizabeth?
Or that you were dating Elizabeth, but she was replaced by Hanako Satoh?
>>1
^^^^ I thought she was Hanako Satoh, but she became Elizabeth.
有点懵…
究竟是你在和花子交往,然后她变成了伊丽莎白,
还是你在和伊丽莎白交往,然后她变成了花子?
我以为她是花子,结果她变成了伊丽莎白。
#2ch
What do you call Hanako by, OP?
Even if it was a nickname, if she got replaced, wouldn’t she find it odd?
^^^ I’m afraid to to tell the details, sorry…
你怎么称呼花子的,>>1?
我知道你们有昵称,但不是同一个人的话,不会觉得这个昵称很奇怪吗?
抱歉,不太想在网上谈论这些细节…
#2ch
If the nickname came from a stage name, then she could’ve become Elizabeth then.
It must have been Elizabeth from the start.
^^ Maybe… But the pictures were from when we were dating…
要是昵称来自于艺名,不是可以说得通嘛。
从最开始她的名字就是伊丽莎白。
这样的话…大学时的照片要怎么解释…
#2ch
So her face is completely different?
^ I think they look very different. I don’t think makeup could be it…
But then again, I don’t know anything about makeup.
她和照片里的长相完全不同吗?
差异非常大,应该不是化妆能做到的。不过,我也不是很了解化妆到底能做到什么地步。
#2ch
Why don’t you ask her directly?
>>1
I’ve been in disarray after yesterday.
I’ll ask her again later.
干嘛不直接向她本人确认呢?
这两天有点发懵,状态好点之后会去问她的。
#2ch
Maybe it’s OP’s personality that’s been replaced…
^^^ I am doubting myself a little…
其实是>>1的人格被替换了吧…
是我的问题嘛…
#2ch
People can get their names changed, y’know.
Maybe she killed somebody?
^^ Can you do that? Don’t you need to go through a whole process and such?
如果需要的话,名字是可以更改的。也许她杀过人?
还能这样?不是有超级复杂的流程吗?
#2ch
Maybe she had a husband but got divorced?
>>1
^ But both her names changed…?
会不会是她结了婚?
但是名字也变了呀…
注:西方文化有结婚后女方改为男方姓氏的风俗。
#2ch
“Isn’t your name Hanako Satoh?”
“What’re you saying?”
What happened after this?
Did she show any signs of distrust or being unsettled?
>>1
At the time, I was just thinking “Huh? Do I have her real name wrong, since I always call her by her nickname?”
So I didn’t want to probe too deeply.
Of course, my head was filled with question marks, but I just tried to smooth it over.
Because if it were my mistake, I thought she would get angry at me.
Remembering her name wrong would be outrageous.
“你不是叫花子吗?”
“你在说些什么啊?”
这之后发生了什么?她有表露出任何反常的迹象吗?
那时我的第一反应是“什么?因为一直叫昵称,结果把她名字记错了吗?”。所以就没继续问下去。
记错名字已经很糟糕了啊,我不想惹她生气。
尽管脑海里有诸多疑问,但当时我强迫自己不去管它。
#2ch
Oh god…
Maybe you’re in an alternate dimension.
But they were sloppy in falsifying your memories…
天哪…这种异次元的展开…
肯定是他们篡改你记忆的时候出了点差错。
#2ch
^ Always possible.
There’ve been people who feel like they’ve suddenly woken up from a long dream.
>>1
^^ Um, that’s freaky, guys…
真有可能。
你有过突然从很长的梦里惊醒过来的感觉吗?
你们的想象力…很丰富
#2ch
Did you send the marriage form?
^ Marriage registration is a pain, and I haven’t done it yet due to various hang-ups.
Plus now, I’m a bit scared to…
结婚登记表已经提交了吗?
登记的程序太复杂了,还没能弄完。
而且现在,我甚至有点害怕…
#2ch
I keep thinking about this and getting nowhere.
You gotta contact someone you can trust right away.
>>1
^^^^ I emailed a friend earlier, but still no reply.
思考到现在,我还是没有结论。
你需要和值得信赖的人聊一聊。
我给朋友发过信息了,在等他的回复。
#2ch
The current girl is someone who’s long stalked OP.
Wanting to marry him at any cost, she talked to a hypnotist.
She took OP to him, he used his hypnotism, and here we are.
…Maybe?
^^ Can hypnotists actually do that sort of thing?
我知道了!
现在的“女友”是个一直跟踪>>1的变态。
她无论如何也要和>>1结婚,甚至找到了催眠师,而且成功劝说了>>1接受催眠。
…有这个可能吧?
催眠有这么厉害吗?
>>1
Got a reply from my friend.
朋友回复了!
Incidentally, here’s what I sent:
“Remember [nickname] who I’ve been dating?
Was her real name “Hanako Satoh” or “Elizabeth Ijuin”?
发出的消息是这样的:
记得和我交往的那个OO(昵称)吗?
她的名字是“花子”还是“伊丽莎白”?
His reply:
“I think it was something Satoh, yeah. Did you break up?”
I figured it was Hanako Satoh I was dating…
他的回复:
记得是“花子”什么的吧。你们分手了?
>>1
现在知道了,大学时和我交往的是花子…
#2ch
First of all, you gotta tell us any episodes from dating Hanako to now, in chronological order.
Sort things out in your head.
Sounds like you’ve got some serious memory issues.
>>1
^^^ I’ll try to remember and post some things.
首先,你得按时间顺序整理,好好回忆自己和花子交往以来的点点滴滴。
我认为你有严重的记忆障碍。
给点时间让我理一理,我会慢慢告诉你们的。
#2ch
Which one’s cuter, Hanako Satoh or Elizabeth Ijuin?
^^ I guess if I had to say, the one in the photo is cuter…
花子和伊丽莎白哪个更可爱?
非要说的话,照片上的那个可爱点…
#2ch
But does OP still love this Elizabeth Ijuin?
^ Of course. I’m all set to marry her.
你现在爱着伊丽莎白吗?
当然。这之前都在准备婚礼了。
>>1
I sent my friend a message:
“Do you know the name “Elizabeth Ijuin”?“
我继续向朋友提问:
你认识伊丽莎白吗?
>>1
In my first year of college, Hanako Satoh was in the same class as me.
Even at welcoming parties and such, we didn’t really come into contact.
>>1
一年级的时候,我和花子就在同一个班级了。不过,连迎新会这种场合,也没一起聊过天。
In second year, I saw her at a rakugo performance by one of the clubs.
I thought, “Ah, she’s that girl in my class.”
When she got off the stage, I think I said to her, “I never realized you were in the Ochiken club, Satoh.”
I’m fairly sure I called her “Satoh” then.
二年级的某日,偶然在戏剧社的演出中看到了她的身影。
啊,是那个班上的女孩。
谢幕后,我跟她打了招呼,“都不知道你的演出这么漂亮,花子。”
我能百分之百肯定,那个名字是花子。
>>1
I realized I was interested in this girl.
Being a literature major, I asked her to teach me about rakugo and borrowed some books.
On Christmas that year, I confessed to her.
She put on a show for me after doing sexy things in my room, haha…
那时候的我想着,她真是个有意思的女孩。
虽然是文学专业,我还是向她请教了表演的技巧,也借了书来读。
接着在那年的圣诞节表了白。那天晚上在我房里,她还真是夸张啊,哈哈哈…
>>1
Got a reply.
“Don’t know her. And “Elizabeth Ijuin”? Hahaha, what kinda name IS that?“
>>1
回复来了:
不认识。还有,伊丽莎白是什么奇怪的名字啦,哈哈哈。
#2ch
Maybe ask your friend if he knows Hanako Satoh’s number?
>>1
Done.
问问他有没有花子的电话?
好。
#2ch
If her face is the same, then maybe she uses a different name for official things than she uses normally. Is she a foreigner?
>>1
But like I said, her face is totally different.
只是她通过正式流程更换了名字吧?她是外国人吗?
可是我也说过了呀,她的脸也不一样了。
#2ch
The Capgras delusion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capgras_delusion
Maybe OP’s case is a little different, but doesn’t it sound similar?
>>1
I read the article.
It seems different, but similar.
Maybe I really should go to a psychiatrist.
卡普格拉综合症。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capgras_delusion
可能有些差别,但是不是很相似?
我仔细读了读。有些说得上,也有些不同。
也许我真的该去做心理咨询。
摘抄自wiki:
卡普格拉综合症(Capgras delusion, Capgras syndrome)是一种妄想症,患者不能正确识别人物或者对象,认为这些都是冒名顶替的。卡普格拉综合症患者没有正常的情绪反应,认为过去熟悉的人或物是冒名顶替的,仅仅看上去像过去那样。有时候患者认为自己的房子,甚至自己,也是另外一个不真实的对象。患者可能挑剔他的父亲,“我知道你看上去很像我的父亲,但你不是,因为他开车没有这么快”。脸盲症患者可以识别人脸部分,但不能将识别的部分组合起来。卡普格拉综合症可能是脸盲症的另一面,即无法产生正确的情感信号,也就是无意识识别过程受损。
>>1
Reply from my friend.
“Her number’s ***-****-****, right?
[Her number from college, but it’s different now, so this is useless info.]
‘Course, she’s your girlfriend, so you’ve spent loads of time together, but I’ve never gotten to talk with ___ once…”
朋友的回复:
“她的号码是XXXXXXXXX,对不对?
“毕竟是你的女朋友,虽然知道号码,其实我也没联系过。”
可是,这是她大学时的号码呀,早就已经注销了。并没有什么用…
#2ch
Contact that club she’s in?
>>1
I don’t know any members I can contact.
She might know, though.
I’ll meet her tomorrow and ask… Too scared to today…
联系戏剧社怎么样?
我跟他们不是很熟…不过她肯定都认识。
明天和她见面的时候我会问的…现在太害怕了不想问…
>>1
I called the old number just to be sure.
Indeed, it’s not in use anymore.
保险起见,我拨打了那个旧号码。
正如预料,已经是空号了。
>>1
Okay, posting some more things I remember.
>>1
继续聊聊记忆里的故事。
After going out on Christmas of my second year of college, we went to visit a temple for the new year.
I think I wrote something like “I pray we’ll always be happy together.”
She might have written Hanako Satoh, but I can’t remember for sure.
圣诞节之后,我们一起做了新年参拜。
我在签上许了“永远幸福”之类的愿望。她写在签上的名字也大概是花子吧。
She gave me chocolates on Valentine’s.
Around this point, our rooms changed around and we ended up together.
情人节她送了我巧克力。
大约那个时候起,我们换了宿舍开始同居。
In third year, we were in the same seminar.
I remember seeing her on the roster and saying “I’m glad we’re in the same seminar.”
Fairly sure the name there was Hanako Satoh.
三年级我们在同一个研讨班上。
我在花名册上看到了她的名字,然后兴高采烈地告诉她。
那个名字绝对是花子。
#2ch
What about trips? Never wrote her name when signing in or anything?
>>1
^^ Yes, we went on trips. To Kyoto, to Izumo…
And I think she wrote her name while booking hotels.
But I can’t really remember if it was Hanako Satoh.
你们一起旅游过吗?她签名时用的是哪个名字?
当然,我们去过挺多地方,京都,出云…
订旅馆的时候她肯定留过姓名。应该是花子吧,我记不太清楚了。
#2ch
So basically, you don’t remember anything from college about “Elizabeth” at all?
^ It’s not like I can recall everything perfectly, but I think so.
I don’t remember finding any incidents odd before…
总之,你完全没有有关“伊丽莎白”这个人的印象,对吧?
不说能清楚回忆起所有的事,至少我印象里是这样。之前也没遇到过这种奇怪的事。
#2ch
What’d you call Satoh and Ijuin, respectively? Both the same?
>>1
^ What did she call me?
Just by my first name.
It’s been that way since college.
It was my last name at first, but then she used my name once we started dating.
你对花子和伊丽莎白的称呼是一样的吗?
称呼吗?她们都是直接叫我名字的。大学以来就这样了。
开始是用姓称呼的,约会之后就改用名字了。
I’m almost wishing to be diagnosed with something at this point.
Not being able to explain all this is what’s making me go nuts.
我甚至有点希望被诊断出有什么毛病了。
再找不到合理的解释,真的就要崩溃了。
#2ch
Thanks for the quick reply.
But learn to read! I asked what did YOU call HER!
You called Satoh by her nickname (stage name?), right?
And Ijuin by the same nickname you used for Satoh?
>>1
She’s had the same nickname since college.
And I’ve called both Hanako Satoh and Elizabeth that same name.
回复得很快是很好啦…但是看清楚点!我问的是你怎么称呼她!
你不是用昵称叫花子吗?也用相同的昵称叫伊丽莎白吗?
一直用的是相同的昵称,我没有给女友换过昵称的。
#2ch
What’s she doing now?
>>1
She’s in her room, I think.
We’re both renting rooms closer to our respective workplaces.
她现在在做什么?
应该在家里吧。我们租住在不同的公寓里,分别离各自的工作地点比较近。
>>1
In the same seminar in third year, our members went flower-viewing.
The friend I emailed earlier was one of those members.
I called her by her nickname, so it spread throughout the group.
在三年级的研讨会上,大家一起去赏了花。
我发消息的朋友就是那时候认识的。
因为花子和我表现亲昵,交往的事很快就传开了。
In summer, we went to the beach. And we went boating in the mountains.
By this point, I think I stopped using her real name altogether…
But when attending the seminar, the professor definitely called her name.
And I don’t remember thinking anything was odd then…
我们暑假的时候去了海滩,还有山涧漂流。
那个时候开始,就没再叫过她的真名了…
可是在研讨会上,教授肯定叫的是她的真名。印象里也没发生奇怪的事。
Also, we went to Kyoto together this summer.
对了,那个夏天我们还一起去了京都。
#2ch
Does it feel like the memories you had thought were spent with Satoh are now memories with Elizabeth (upon seeing the name Elizabeth), and you’re wondering who Satoh is?
Or is it just the name Elizabeth compared against it being Satoh in your memories that’s confusing?
你觉得是哪种情况:
你以为和花子一起度过了大学时光;看到“伊丽莎白”这个名字之后,意识到其实是和她一起度过的,开始疑惑花子是谁,
还是和花子一起经历的记忆里,出现了“伊丽莎白”这个格格不入的名字让你疑惑?
>>1
In my memory, the girl I’ve been dating now is the one I’ve dated since college.
But her name in college was Satoh, and now it’s Elizabeth.
And in photographs from my college days, I’m with a girl I don’t recognize.
>>1
我记得和现在的女友是从大学一路走过来的。
但那时候她的名字是花子,现在变成了伊丽莎白。
而且在找到的大学旧照片里,我并不认识站在身侧的那个女孩。
>>1
There’s the photo taken in Kyoto, and one at Izumo Temple from autumn of this year, and it’s the same girl in both.
I don’t take many pictures, so that’s all I have.
我找到了在京都和出云大社的相片,上面的女孩是同一个人。
我不经常留影,能找到的照片就这几张。
#2ch
You say you don’t recognize her, but don’t you know both Satoh and Elizabeth’s faces?
You know Elizabeth’s current face, but don’t recognize the old Satoh?
>>1
I don’t know whether it’s Satoh or Elizabeth, but I don’t remember the face of the girl in the photos.
But the one I went on the trip with was definitely my girlfriend.
你说你不认识她,但你不是知道花子和伊丽莎白都长什么模样吗?
你知道伊丽莎白现在的模样,却认不出来花子?
我不知道照片里的女孩究竟是花子还是伊丽莎白,但确实不认识她。
不过,我肯定是和女友一起去旅游的。
This is wearing me out.
I’ll check on various things tomorrow.
Though talking about it here has gotten me more nervous.
And that’s considering I felt like throwing up before starting the thread…
Maybe nothing’s been resolved, but you’ve been helpful nonetheless.
Thanks for listening, everyone.
我有点筋疲力尽了,希望明天能仔细确认。
谈起这件事还是会有点烦躁。可以的话,真的不想管了…
不过想想看,刚开串的时候,我可是快要吐出来的…
虽然没弄明白什么,跟你们聊天真的很有用,谢谢你们大家。
时间流逝…
#2ch
Oho!
I’ve been waiting for this!
哈!
一直在等你呢!
>>1
I’ve calmed down some now.
To be honest, I don’t have much to report. Sorry.
I’ve been too busy with work to go to the hospital.
现在比昨天冷静点了。
今天也没什么进展。工作很忙,也没能去成医院。
However, I did send a phone photo of the girl I don’t recognize to my friend.
His reply:
“___? Is this from back in college?”
不过,我把旅游照片发给了朋友。
他的回复:
“你和OO?大学时的照片吗?”
I emailed Elizabeth:
“How long have we been dating, again?”
Elizabeth’s reply:
“About five years, isn’t it?”
我也给伊丽莎白发了消息:
“我们交往多久了?”
她的回复:“五年了吧,怎么了?”
>>1
That’s about all I can report.
Not much progress.
I’m a little tired.
这是现在的状态,没什么进展。
而且我有点累了。
#2ch
I think OP should decide on this himself, but…
这是>>1的自由,不过…
A: The girl he’s currently going to marry
B: The problem girl in the photograph
C: The girl he was dating when the photo was taken (The girl OP thinks he’s been dating all along)
A:准备结婚的女孩
B:照片中的谜之女孩
C:拍摄照片的那个暑假和>>1交往的女孩(也是>>1认为一直在和他交往的)
A/B/C could be three people or all just one.
They could also be named either Satoh or Elizabeth.
A/B/C可能是三个不同的人,也可能是同一个人。
她们的名字可能是“花子”或 “伊丽莎白”。
I think coming up with a standard like that could make things easier to read.
如果能总结成这样的格式,读起来会方便很多。
>>1
It’s not exactly easy for me to divide it up that way…
Because to me, I’ve been dating Hanako Satoh all along, and I don’t know the girl in the photos.
能总结成这么清楚的形式真是厉害…
我有点当局者迷。
我就是觉得一直在和花子交往,也不认识相片中的女孩。
#2ch
Didn’t you use “___” at some point?
Is that not Hanako Satoh?
>>1
___ represents the nickname I called her by.
你用的“OO”代表什么?是“花子”吗?
花子的昵称。
#2ch
The point is, you sent a photo of B to your friend, right? What did he call B?
>>1
I called her ___ (her nickname) back then, and my friend called her that as well.
你把B的照片传给了朋友,对不对?他怎么称呼B?
和我一样,朋友也是用“OO”称呼的。
#2ch
Nickname? She has a nickname too?
昵称?B也有个昵称?
>>1
Her nickname… Oh, fine. I suppose I might as well specify.
Her stage name at the time was “Aigantei Chiwawa.”
Thus, I called her “Chiwa.”
她的昵称…算了,我还是说出来吧…
她的艺名是“愛玩亭千輪々(Aigantei Chiwawa)”,所以就用昵称吉娃娃(ちわちゃん)叫她了 。
#2ch
Did your friend know Chiwa was her nickname? He didn’t think it was her real name?
你的朋友知道吉娃娃是昵称吧?不会以为是真名吧?
>>1
He was in our seminar, so he should know her real name.
And he remembered her last name as Satoh yesterday.
他和我们在同样的研讨会上,所以肯定知道她的真名。
他昨天也说了名字是花子什么的。
>>1
This really is wearing me out, though, so I ask you to wait until I’m ready to report (including my nerves settling down).
我很疲倦了,请大家耐心点。
精神状态好点了会继续报告的。
时间流逝…
#2ch
Any developments?
有进展吗?
>>1
Not really.
I decided I don’t want to go to the hospital until I’m certain of a few more things.
I’m busy working, so I haven’t met my girlfriend or my friend.
And I’m a little scared of the two of them meeting face to face…
But I’m planning to see my friend tomorrow.
没有。
决定去医院之前,先看看自己能不能把事情弄清楚。
今天都在工作,没机会和女友或朋友见面。说实话,对三人会面的场合有种莫名的害怕。
不过,明天会去和朋友见面的。
#2ch
For now, show her the old photographs.
^^^^ I’ll try that.
至少你该给伊丽莎白看看那些旧照片。
嗯…确实是。
#2ch
Introducing your friend and her (Ijuin) would settle everything.
Your friend knows “photo girl = Satoh = Chiwa,” and Ijuin knows herself as “Chiwa,” so you three can talk it out.
^^^ I’ll discuss it with my friend tomorrow.
把你的朋友介绍给伊丽莎白应该能解决问题。
你的朋友知道“照片上的女孩 = 花子 = 吉娃娃”,伊丽莎白知道“她自己 = 吉娃娃”,所以三个人见一面能解答不少疑惑。
明天先和朋友聊过再说。
#2ch
I’m curious about this bike incident where he broke his foot.
Maybe he doesn’t remember, but maybe he fell unconscious?
If so, it might have had an effect on his brain.
^^ I broke my foot right after entering my fourth year.
I don’t think I hit my head.
A lady crashed into me from the side, and my right foot got crushed underneath the bike.
对>>1伤到脚的自行车事故有点好奇。
他认为那不严重,不过也可能是事故中丧失了意识吧,然后记忆被影响了。
事故发生在刚升入四年级时,我伤到了脚,肯定和头部没有关系。
迎面和另一位女士撞上,右脚被自行车轧在了下面。
#2ch
- Might be like that Natsuhiko Kyogoku book with the guy who can’t distinguish faces. (Dunno if that disorder actually exists.)
- Calls her mostly by a nickname, so thinks “Huh? Was that her name?”
- He got the name wrong from the start.
Any combination of that stuff could work…
^ What do you mean by not being able to distinguish faces?
可能是脸盲症,像京极夏彦的《狂骨之梦》那样?虽然不确定现实中存不存在啦。
也可能>>1一直用昵称叫女友,反而对真名感到陌生了。
或者>>1最开始就弄错了女友的名字。
这些要素组合起来应该就是答案。
脸盲症那个是什么意思?
#2ch
You aren’t poor with faces and names, are you, OP? Even if it’s not bad enough to affect your life.
For now, I’d recommend counseling as soon as possible.
The one thing I want to know is if this is a mental issue. It can happen to anyone, and people can live their whole lives not realizing it.
^ I’m kind of bad at remembering faces, but… not bad enough for anyone to mention it or anything.
I’ve always thought I was just normal.
But if there are people like that… Maybe I’m that way, too?
你确实能分清不同的脸和名字,对吧?能百分之百肯定吗?
也许只是脸盲的程度很轻没发现吧。
有精神疾病的人有时甚至意识不到自己的症状,所以强烈建议你去做心理咨询。
我确实不太擅长记名字,但还没到那种程度…应该还算正常吧…
真的有这样的人吗?…我有点怀疑自己了…
#2ch
In fact, I think I have some of the same symptoms as OP.
It’s not as extreme, but I suddenly forgot someone’s name, and even when I looked at an old photo of them, I couldn’t link the face and the name.
To be fair, it doesn’t explain how your friend remembers her as Hanako Satoh… but it could be several things at work.
Try to consider all the possibilities.
Just consider that there are other people with this condition.
实际上,我也有相似的症状,只是没那么严重罢了。
有时候会突然忘记某人的姓名;直盯着旧照片看,也不能把名字和脸联系起来。
但是,就算>>1有脸盲症,也不能解释为什么朋友记得她叫花子…但至少是个解开谜题的思路。
试着考虑看看吧。这样的病症确实是存在的呢。
时间流逝…
>>1
Reporting on what happened today.
But I’m still sorting out what happened myself, so it might be hard to understand in places.
Ask me about anything unclear.
Also, I’m a little drunk. So I’m going to ramble on somewhat. Sorry.
仍然在脑海里整理今天发生的事,要是我有地方没解释清楚可以直接提问。
另外,稍微有点醉了,不知所云的话还请原谅。
>>1
I met my friend who I emailed earlier.
We met at a pub and talked while eating.
We haven’t met in about half a year, but we occasionally emailed each other.
First, I showed him a couple photos of the girl I didn’t recognize.
I had already sent them earlier, but I thought it might have been harder to judge from the phone camera.
我和互发消息的朋友在酒吧见了面,一起吃了饭。
我们半年没见了,但有时会发信息聊天。
首先,我给他看了大学时的照片。
确实上次已经发送过那些照片,但直接看实物会更清楚吧。
>>1
Friend: “These are the pictures you sent?”
Me: “Yeah. Do you know who’s in them?”
Friend: “You and Chiwa, right?”
Me: “You’re sure?”
Friend: “I don’t get it. What’s this about?”
Me: “Maybe I’m just messed up in the head, but I don’t know who the girl in these pictures is…”
Friend: “What? You serious? Aren’t you dating?”
Me: “Yeah…”
Friend: “Did you break up?”
Me: “No, nothing like that…”
Friend: “Then what?”
朋友:「这不是你发过来的照片吗?」
>>1:「是。你知道里面的人是谁吗?」
朋友:「你和吉娃娃,对不对?」
>>1:「能肯定吗?」
朋友:「什么意思?你想说什么?」
>>1:「其实,我认不出这个女孩。最近头脑有点晕乎乎的。」
朋友:「啊?没在开玩笑吧?你们不是在交往吗?」
>>1:「呃…」
朋友:「分手了?」
>>1:「不是…」
朋友:「到底什么情况?」
I couldn’t explain it very well, so it kept going on like this.
It might have been the alcohol, too.
But eventually, I explained the whole situation.
我没办法一下子解释清楚,所以含糊的对话持续了一段时间。
总算让他理解了目前的情况。
>>1
He was quiet for a while, drinking his sake.
I wasn’t sure what to say.
他沉默了一会儿,啜饮着自己的清酒。
我也不知道说什么好。
Friend: “Well, if you yourself think you’re messed up, wouldn’t it be best to go to the hospital?”
Me: “I’ve considered it, but I wanted to make sure first…”
Friend: “But hear it from me. This girl is definitely Hanako Satoh, and I don’t know any girl named Elizabeth Ijuin.”
Me: “Then I have a request. I want you to meet with Elizabeth.”
Friend: “What? I don’t wanna… Why should I…?”
他终于开了口,
朋友:「你自己都意识到不对劲了,还不去医院看看吗?」
>>1:「我是有想过,但是想先和你确认一下…」
朋友:「我能肯定地告诉你,这个女孩绝对是花子,而且我也不认识什么叫伊丽莎白的女孩。」
>>1:「那你能帮我个忙吗?可以去和伊丽莎白见一面吗?」
朋友:「什么?…为什么…有这个必要吗?」
And here I thought he was a friend.
Or maybe he got replaced, too?
Well, not wanting to get into that kind of nonsense, I just figured going out into society changes a person.
还以为我们是很好的朋友呢。是我错了吗?还是连他也被替换了?
虽然不太想在这里发牢骚,不过进入社会真的会改变一个人啊。
Friend: “Anyway, go to the hospital and get counseling.
I’ll pay the bill here.”
Perhaps you could say he ran away from me. Nuts.
So that brought today to a close.
朋友:「总之,你应该立刻去医院做心理咨询。」
朋友:「结账吧,今晚算我请客好了。」
这个胆小鬼就这么从我身边逃开了。
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This blog is primarily about translated content, but if there’s no source and it doesn’t look like it’s a translation of something, I probably made it myself.
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网站的文章多数是翻译的故事,但要是有些没标注来源,或是没有翻译稿的感觉,那大概是我自己的作品。
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到底怎么回事????看得晕了
2017年9月5日 12:51 -
我總感覺看過了
2017年8月30日 09:54 -
到底是怎么回事啊 好在意
2017年8月26日 21:41 -
这个感觉可以拍电影啊
2017年8月26日 20:31 -
等后续等后续等后续(敲桌子)
2017年8月21日 12:43 -
這篇我有看過有人翻譯2CH原版的,
超懸疑!!!!2017年8月21日 10:04 -
原日文標題是「彼女にプロポーズしたらいつの間にか別人にすり替わっていた」喔~
…………好想破梗啊(住手)2017年8月20日 17:51 -
感觉变成恐怖故事了w
2017年8月20日 12:36 -
有意思啊!
2017年8月20日 02:54 -
日翻英再翻中?
2017年8月20日 01:27 -
新注音新聞有翻譯過這篇囉!
2017年8月19日 23:43 -
看完全文之后更迷了
2017年8月19日 23:28 -
看得我有点迷
2017年8月19日 23:21 -
emmm 有点意思
2017年8月19日 22:49 -
我好像在哪裏看過這文章了(茶
好像會說到因為精神壓力而出現記不住人臉的病症[t钱]2017年8月19日 22:33 -
我好像在哪里看过这篇文章?
2017年8月19日 20:31
就是那篇看了几次,但每次想想还是想不起原因的那篇嘛?